I knew this was scientifically illiterate bollocks as soon as I read it.
The crew of King Henry VIII’s warship the Mary Rose was more ethnically diverse than previously thought, research has suggested.
A study used the latest scientific techniques to offer clues about the ancestry, childhood origins and diets of its crewmembers.
It suggests at least three of them may have come from southern European coasts, Iberia and North Africa.
What was their methodology? Oh, that’s right apart from isotopes in the teeth, which suggest possible southern European origins, they used the same discredited methods used by the Nazis to determine race as well as articles found on the skeletons, which suggest sweet FA.
“This has shown their diverse origins and provided the first direct evidence for mariners of African ancestry in the navy of Henry VIII.”
It does nothing of the sort. This is junk science at its worst.
It’s bollocks. Utter, utter bollocks. These people are absolutely determined to erase our history by whatever means they can.
So, how imprecise can the report be? at least three – well, the complement of the Mary Rose was about 400, so that’s a very small minority and thus very imprecise. suggests – that’s fairly imprecise as well. may – ooh, that’s imprecise too! southern European coasts, Iberia and North Africa that’s imprecise as well – how can just three people come from all three places? Utter tossers.
The desperation to ram “african” down our throats at every turn. So one of the crew may have been born/lived much of his life in north africa. He would not have been black.
Isn’t it likely that sailors moved around more than people generally? The crew of a ship would be more diverse than populations generally anyway.
Certainly within Europe. Possibly the Mediterranean coast of North Africa. However what is being subliminally pushed here is that there were black people in the crew. This is highly unlikely. Not least due to the attitudes of the time.
When we’re all eventually allowed out again LR, I can thoroughly recommend a visit to the Mary Rose museum (here). Current race-mongering imbecility aside, it’s a day really well spent, and I was absolutely enthralled when I took the kids last January, at the time quite pleased with the decision to buy a free-to-return ticket valid for a year.
If you ever get the chance to do this, I’d still recommend the “explorer” ticket, but go for the “ultimate” which allows you to access everywhere. Make a long weekend of it.
When I was a child, I think the only attractions here were the museum and HMS Victory, but there’s a lot more now. Great for anyone who loves exploring the past, especially military naval history.
At my first school in a mill town in Lancashire there was one black family with two or maybe three children in the catchment area.
When I was about 10 years old, in a different town in the North West of England, one of my teachers asked the class “Has anybody seen an Indian?” I don’t recall the context, just the question. One child put her hand up, she had visited relatives in Birmingham.
Anybody who has lived in the UK for the last 60 or 70 years knows that the UK used to be almost completely white.
At my primary school in the late 60s, within walking distance of Birmingham city centre, there was a single Nigerian boy and a couple of slightly exotic girls who might have had a French or Italian parent or grandparent. That was it. Out of curiosity I looked the school up online a couple of years ago: it was 80% Somali, with the rest Afro-Caribbean, Pakistani or various other flavours of ‘mystery meat’.
Yeah, don’t remember any African/carribeans, but remember two Pakistanis at Junior/Infant school. That’s in the 70s.
Completely different at secondary, though that was much more central in the city.
We had a Japanese guy at our school in the 70s, by the name of Kazuo Ishiguro.
We had a black kid join our school in the mid to late sixties. He was a bit of a phenomenon as none of us had seen a black person before. This was the norm. The idea that there were black sailors in a Tudor navy is absurd. Britain was not a diverse society and it is blatant historical revisionism to try to suggest that it was.
Ah, but think of the Narrative!
Simon Webb on his “History debunked” YouTube channel did a great analysis of this.
I love the fact that in order to make the narrative fit, these imbeciles will embrace Nazi eugenics. National Socialism, anyone? It worked so well last time.
Yes, I linked to that in the post.
LR-obviously true that British society back in the day wsn’t multiracial. However it seems to me entirely possible and likely even that some of the mariners were blacks or lascars or whatever. Then as now ships sailed all over the place picking crew members as they went.
Far from scandalised by this titbit personally in fact I find it rather fascinating. It’s not like they’re claiming the first mate was a black man or transgender (except the navy has form in that sense too).
Well, there were women serving in Nelson’s navy. I’m not scandalised by the possibility of non European sailors, I’m annoyed that multiculturalism and diversity are being rammed down our throats and on the basis of very thin evidence.