Covid-19 An Alternative Take

This open letter is penned to the NZ government, but applies equally anywhere in the world, so is worth a read.

Firstly, we are told repeatedly that we should listen to experts, yet here we have experts who are offering a different perspective to the narrative. Which tells us that experts often disagree over issues, so it makes sense to listen to the dissenting voices and draw our own conclusions having done so.

‘There is no evidence to show that the 2019 coronavirus is more lethal than respiratory adenoviruses, influenza viruses, coronaviruses from previous years, or rhinoviruses responsible for the common cold.’ (Dr Pablo Goldschmidt , virologist specializing in tropical diseases and Professor of Molecular Pharmacology at the Université Pierre et Marie Curie in Paris. )

The narrative that we are all going to die comes from the insistence on two things – firstly the total death figures, which fail to include whether someone died of this disease or was merely tested positive for it, but died of some other complication. Secondly, a failure to present the amount of people who have recovered having suffered minor symptoms and never went to hospital, let alone ICU.

So, what we are being presented with by a mendacious media is a skewed picture. That’s when they are not outright lying:

The media is playing the major part in creating panic, filling their pages with sensational but easily discredited stories (newspapers are supposed to sell more copies in time of war, and perhaps this ‘war on coronavirus’ is no different).  The BBC reported on a 21 year old woman ‘who died of Covid19 without any previous illnesses’ –  it subsequently became known that the woman did not test positive for Covid19 and died of a heart failure.

If people have not yet realised that the media is the enemy, they have been walking about with their eyes closed. These people are evil. They will deliberately lie and smear to gain a moderate increase in circulation. When Sargon of Akkad labelled these mendacious bastards as dirty, dirty, smear merchants, he was merely making an observation of fact.

The dismissive response of virologists and other specialists as well as published official reports from mid-March, both well-documented here by Facts About COVID-19,  provided ample warning that the virus is not the creature it is claimed to be.  Governments have chosen to bow to the media-engendered hysteria, and to ignore available information contrary to the media narrative.

In a fact sheet published March 23, the World Health Organization reported that COVID-19 was in fact spreading slower, not faster, than influenza by a factor of about 50%. Moreover, pre-symptomatic transmission appeared to be much lower with COVID-19 than with influenza.

Again, we have seen this play out. The government’s original plan of allowing people to catch the disease and build immunity the natural way was quickly dropped in favour of a fascist lock-down. These people are clearly the wrong type of expert, so their opinion on the matter was dismissed. As for the WHO – if ever an organisation deserved to be dismantled then this is it – along with the UN, PHE and the BBC.

With neither a bang nor barely a whimper, barely one week ago New Zealand put being a long established and respected Parliamentary democracy on hold to become a virtual Police state in the ongoing fight against COVID-19. […]

We have settled into a life regime more restrictive than at any previous point in our history – including wartime.

We have no freedom of movement, limited access to essential goods and services, and our borders have been sealed […] (Peter Dunne, former NZ Cabinet Minister,   ‘Democracy On Hold)

Likewise the UK – apart from the borders. The closet fascists have been emboldened by this and are out in force. This has brought out the absolute worst in people.

Despite all the talk of ‘being kind’, a culture of dobbing in one’s neighbours is being actively encouraged. The Police Commissioner Mike Bush proudly announced that the website set up for that purpose crashed within the hour due to the volume of reports about lockdown infringements – 4,200 were received in the first 24 hours.

While I haven’t heard how the UK versions have fared, I very much expect that there has been a positive response to them, with nasty curtain-twitchers using it as a means to settle old scores as informers have done throughout history.

The executive director of the WHO Health Emergencies Program, Michael Ryan, has suggested that as transmission is happening within families, those testing positively, according to the very questionable testing process, should be removed from their homes, the implication being that could be by force:

‘Now, we need to go and look in families to find those people who may be sick and remove them and isolate them in a safe and dignified manner.

I saw this in a YouTube video and it was chilling to watch. Again, this organisation needs to be torn down and its inhabitants flayed through the streets before hanging, drawing and quartering pour encourager les autres. Michael Ryan is an evil fascist and it is there in his own words.

This disastrous situation can only be rectified if the mistake is acknowledged and rectified, the measures repudiated and the state of emergency lifted.  Any other course leaves the way for ongoing abuse of power by the police and the authorities.

I cannot add anything to that.

23 Comments

  1. I’m pretty sure that by the time that you were aware that the virus was present in your household you would all be infected. I can’t see how you would be able to isolate from each other in a way that would be at all effective. Ryan is stupid as well as evil.

  2. “This disastrous situation can only be rectified if the mistake is acknowledged …….”

    That is not possible because the type of people responsible, politicians and experts, never acknowledge mistakes and were the mistake acknowledged the claims for damages from ruined businesses would be gargantuan.

  3. One thing that was mentioned in the previous post was the need to clamp down on the crime of sunbathing. It is hard to see how this activity is helping to spread the virus. It has also been noted that a deficiency in vitamin D makes us more vulnerable to it.

    • Well, quite. Everything is a crime now according to Plod. They and government are making it up as they go along, which is why I won’t lift a finger to help them. Despite my neighbour receiving a visitor this afternoon. I was out weeding and noticed. But like the rest of those around, I minded my own business.

      • This will be remembered – at least next time there are calls for Plod to be routinely armed. Can you just imagine if any of those evil jumped-up authoritarians had been kitted out with .357 or 9mm equipment?

  4. Likewise the UK – apart from the borders

    And that makes us even worse! If we are to be “Locked Down” then make it a complete lock down Don’t allow flights to continue arriving daily from all over the world, with no testing of the passengers. And as for “Asylum Seekers” crossing the Chanel…

    • Makes no difference imv. If they test -ve, they enter a country where contact is only allowed with members of your own household who themselves can’t contact anyone else ( there’s a few exceptions to that rule ). If they test +ve they are quarantined presumably so cannot contact anyone in a physical sense. Pretty much the same outcome.
      Might be different if they have entered the UK to do a job which cannot be done at home, then we might want that job to be done.
      Might as well direct your testing resources elsewhere.

  5. Glad you mentioned Sargon, Carl is a go to vlog for me and I hope others check his content on you tube;- ‘Akkad daily’ now.

  6. (newspapers are supposed to sell more copies in time of war, and perhaps this ‘war on coronavirus’ is no different)

    I posted on this last week; have noticed much lower stocks in Morrisons with several papers sold out – highly unusual

    As for “Experts” and MSM: Shutdown needed until Vaccine developed, we must save every life

    – A close look at the data suggests the peak of the epidemic in New York may have already passed
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VdK77bhAwO0

    USA “Experts” saying shutdown may last 18 months or longer until vaccine created, or up to 1 million might die

    This is nuts, 1 million is ~0.25% of USA population, the cost of 2 month let alone 18 month shutdown does not merit it

    A cost: Commercial burglaries are up 75 percent in New York City since COVID-19 lockdown

    …and Models are. . . . . Sh1t – Remember this when the “experts” models tell you that your farts are causing global warming

    – Americans deserve objective metrics for restarting the country
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mWuzrQuLIrw

    We need to make sure this kind of thing never happens again. Should be “we the people” that decides something like this not a few people more worried about personal and political agendas than the country

  7. All-Cause Mortality Surveillance 09 April 2020 – Week 15 report (up to week 14 data)

    In week 14 2020, statistically significant excess all-cause mortality by week of death was observed overall and by age group in the 15-64 and 65+ year olds and in all regions in England, through the EuroMOMO algorithm. In the devolved administrations, no statistically significant excess all-cause mortality for all ages was observed for Northern Ireland and Wales in week 14 and for Scotland in week 12 2020

    All-cause death registrations (ONS), England and Wales – In week 13 2020, an estimated 11,141 all-cause deaths (excluding COVID-19 deaths) were registered in England and Wales (source: Office for National Statistics). This is an increase compared to the 10,645 estimated death registrations in week 12 2020.

    Excess all-cause (EuroMOMO) mortality in subpopulations, UK – In week 14 2020 in England, statistically significant excess mortality by week of death above the upper 2 z-score threshold was seen overall, by age group in the 15 -64 and 65+ year olds and sub nationally (all ages) in all regions (North East, North West, Yorkshire & Humber, East & West Midlands, East of England, London and South East & West regions after correcting GRO disaggregate data for reporting delay with the standardised EuroMOMO algorithm (Figure 1). This data is provisional due to the time delay in registration; numbers may vary from week to week

    https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/878916/Weekly_all_cause_mortality_surveillance_week_15_2020_report.pdf

    Graph shows a delayed spike in 2020 and slightly higher than 2017 and 2018

    imo nothing to be concerned about so far. I wonder what psychological health effects Project You Will Die has on those infected

    • On of my colleagues is Bi-Polar. He tried to set up his own riding school last year and made a hash of it as most of us expected. Fortunately, one of my clients took him back. He has barely started to get himself back together and this happens. He is in debt, has no income, cannot pay his bills and has been unable to secure alternative work or benefits. I worry about his mental health as do the rest of us. Is all this worth it? No, it damned well isn’t.

  8. I have said elsewhere that my concern with Covid 19 is not the virus but with the mental health effects of Locking everyone up for weeks on end and the economic impact, effects of which will linger for years. It seems to me that these decisions are being made by bureaucrats who will not, at least in the short term, be impacted financially.
    I am also appalled at how meekly people in the west have acquiesced to what is effectively Marshall law. I go to shopping malls everyday, partly because it is my own personal rebellion, and partly because I am fascinated by what ‘it’ looks like.

    It is currently 37 degrees here in Perth (aus), but they have roped off all of the playgrounds because apparently that much heat and sunshine is not enough to disinfect the equipment and stop the kiddies from dying.

  9. “Expert” definition :

    EX= a has been
    SPERT = a drip under pressure

    There is no evidence to show that the 2019 coronavirus is more lethal…
    A 51.2% ICU death rate would seem to establish otherwise as would the rapid rate of spread of infection.

    Nobody wants to see civil liberties eroded, but there is no suggestion that this will be in anyway permanent in the UK, especially as legislation requires a review by Parliament at the end of 6 months.

    Individual freedoms are, of course, highly important – but they are of little use to you if you are dead.

    I do, however, have to agree that the media and the BBC in particularly are treating this as the new Brexit Project Fear. That is disgraceful scaremongering and is not at all helpful or productive.

    As for people moaning about the effects on their mental health, one is forced to reflect on how they would have coped with the Luftwaffe dropping bombs on their heads for 6 years?

    • A 51.2% ICU death rate would seem to establish otherwise as would the rapid rate of spread of infection.

      There are two different issues here.

      Firstly, taking the ICU death rate out of context of the whole doesn’t prove the point. Those in ICU are there because they have underlying health conditions and/or have contracted a high viral load. Those who die overwhelmingly do so because they have some underlying condition that has weakened their immune systems.

      The death rate figure only makes sense if you compare death due to the virus against overall contractions. Unfortunately, the latter figure, we may never fully know due to a lack of testing and a lack of reporting. There are people who have contracted one of the milder forms who spent the time at home recovering and never reported it to the authorities, so will never be counted.

      Bear in mind, though, that HMG agrees with Dr Pablo Goldschmidt in that it has reclassified Covid-19 as less of a consequence than SARS, MERS and Avian flu – despite all of those having lower death rates, which is interesting.

      So the real measure is how likely is a healthy person contracting this disease likely to die – not the death rate in ICU. Given the recovery rates that the press seem unwilling to cover in any great depth, that risk is fairly low.

      On the second issue, a lack of immunity among the population as a whole means that spread is, indeed, going to be rapid. This, rather than death rates, is the problem because it causes spikes in demand for which the health service struggles to cope. That is why HMG wants to flatten the curve. I have some sympathy with their aim here, but I do not believe a total lock-down was necessary to achieve this.

      Nobody wants to see civil liberties eroded, but there is no suggestion that this will be in anyway permanent in the UK, especially as legislation requires a review by Parliament at the end of 6 months.

      I would like to think you are right on this. However, the bastards have form when it comes to emergency legislation remaining on the statute books. Anti terrorism measures being an example.

      As for people moaning about the effects on their mental health, one is forced to reflect on how they would have coped with the Luftwaffe dropping bombs on their heads for 6 years?

      Fair point. However, we were not confined to our homes. Businesses continued for those who were not actually fighting the Luftwaffe. And it is reasonable to look at the cost/benefit analysis of this legislation. If it does more harm than good in the long term to our economy and the health of the population, then it has failed in its purpose.

    • the rapid rate of spread of infection

      Where? CV19 has been around since November 2019. Dec, Jan, Feb and most of March we carried on as normal and No rapid rise of infection, after 4-5 months 0.02% of population infected

      CV-19 Scam-demic
      <bCovid-19 Total Global Deaths: 102,088
      Total Global Cases: 1,653,204 = 0.02% of population
      https://www.ecdc.europa.eu/en/geographical-distribution-2019-ncov-cases

      UK All Cause Annual Deaths: ~615,000
      Global All Cause Annual Deaths: ~58 Million (58,000,000)

  10. We do not have a vaccine as yet. Most viruses cause the immune syatem to raise antibodies. SARS COVID 1 did so SARS COVID 2 should do so. With no vaccine we will have to go for herd immunity. This would require a structured end to the lockdown and taking a hit re death rate. Awful I know but if we are not careful we will get a repeat of February, March and April with a second wave. Most people will get a mild disease. It depends on your genetics. Those with good immune systems will shrug it off. Those with co-morbidities who are old will succumb and die. Most deaths have almost certainly been due to existing chronic health conditions not the virus as such.Just like ‘flu, it pushed them over the edge. This is not a popular argument. So keep an eye on Sweden. I know Sweden is not the UK but it is going for an approach similar to the one we adopted to begin with before hysterical predictive models were touted which panicked the government. Influenza virus knocks people off every year mostly in the old age co-morbidity end of the bell curve. But there is the psychological crutch of a vaccine. It might be for a sub optimal strain, such as the previous year’s strain but hey, there is a vaccine. Not having one for this Corona virus exacerbates the response way over the top compared to seasonal ‘flu. We simply didn’t need to take the economic hit that we are about to see by the end of May. The approach I have outlined is not only unfashionable, even though correct microbiologically, it is politically unacceptable now because of the modelling.

  11. Regarding cause of death. , the virus itself may have hastened your demise , however it isn’t the main cause because you die of complications ,therefore , the cause of death is probably from some kind of respiratory infection, caused by Coronavirus , and added to that is any pre existing conditions you may have had. So the death is not directly related to a viral illness, but a combination of other factors.

  12. Over at Orphans of Liberty there is a video of a police officer trying to collar a lone jogger. Said jogger puts on a spurt and the copper gives up the chase. It is quite funny. Again you have to ask who this guy was going to infect as he was miles away from anyone.

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