Grenfawkes

Sigh…

The footage, apparently shot for bonfire night in a private garden, shows the 3ft cardboard model with brown faces at the windows being lifted on to a fire as onlookers joke and laugh.

Okay, yes, I’d agree, it’s pretty sick. Vile, yes, if you like. Racist? Maybe. But in the event of awful disasters, sick humour usually follows. The thing to do is ignore it for it will pass.

Commander Stuart Cundy, who is leading the investigation into the Grenfell Tower fire, said:“I am frankly appalled by the callous nature of the video posted online.

“So many people lost so many loved ones, and many more have been deeply affected. To mock that disaster in such a crude way is vile.

“I can’t imagine the distress this video will undoubtedly cause to bereaved families and survivors.

Yeah, well, possibly. Probably even. But no one has to look. There are some sick people out there. Ignore them.

“The Met’s Grenfell Tower investigation team is taking this matter very seriously. Any offences that have been committed will be fully investigated.”

Whaaa? This is the kind of crap waste of police time that Sara Thornton was talking about the other day. Some people using a cardboard Grenfell as a bonfire Guy is not something the police should be investigating. Being sick is not – or it damned well shouldn’t be in a free, civilised society – a crime. So Stuart Cundy should fuck off and do some real policing, investigating real crimes, not imagined ones. People’s hurt feelings are none of his concern.

Campaign group Grenfell United condemned the video as “disgusting”. The group tweeted: “We hope the police are taking this seriously.

“Not only is it extremely upsetting to survivors and people who lost family, it’s hateful and offensive to everyone that has been affected by the tragic events of that night.”

I’m sure. I regard it as pretty sick and in bad taste. However, I am fervently hoping (okay, vain hope, I know as it will be an easy collar that won’t involve any real policing or risk) that the police are not taking it seriously. They have real crimes to investigate. People’s hurt feelings are something they will have to deal with themselves. Offensive? Yeah, no doubt – I’d be pretty upset if I was on the receiving end. But being offended is not something the police should be involved with. Sick humour exists. Live with it.

20 Comments

  1. Inflammatory gesture?
    But others will make more money than them from the whole Grenfell Fire episode. And that is not a crime.

    • The Daily Mail is already driving tonight’s ad-revenue by plastering one of it’s “disgusted” articles all over it’s website…

  2. I’m more upset that an effigy of folk hero, Guy Fawkes, is customarily burnt on the bonfire. The only man in 500 years to enter parliament with honourable intent and we are expected to applaud as his image is tossed into the flames. It’s a travesty.

    (And just in case you didn’t realise, I’m not entirely serious. :-))

    • “The only man in 500 years to enter parliament with honourable intent”

      I agree totally: and I AM entirely serious.

      • I’d like to claim credit for it but, like most of “my” wise words, I read it somewhere and thought “I’ll steal that”. 🙁

      • “Honourable intent”? No. We correctly celebrate the thrawting and execution of a traitor who wanted UK to be ruled by the Vatican City.

        Now we’re trying to remove UK ruled by Brussels City and traitor May needs similar treatment.

        • You seem to have missed the point of the joke here. Although it’s usually honest rather than honourable. Fawkes never made any pretence about his motives. Consequently he was honest in his intentions. The incumbents claim to enter parliament to represent our interests. The evidence suggests that unlike Fawkes, their intentions are not honest.

          • honest rather than honourable

            A huge difference, especially when Palace of Westminster is subject.

            I hope Honest Jordan Peterson destroyed Honourable Abbotpotamus on BBC QT, will watch later.

            Cheers

          • BBC QT was rubbish. Jordan Peterson given little time Abbotpotamus given more time than anyone else. Rampant BBC bias again.

  3. This is what happens when you have wall-to-wall onion sniffing from both the activist and conformist media and enforced sainthood being bestowed by those with an axe to grind on a bunch of people who happened to be in the wrong place at the wrong time. That’s before you start to examine why some of them were in the wrong place in the first place – which of course you aren’t allowed to even contemplate doing in polite society.
    If you suppress healthy, reasonable questioning you get outbreaks of, well whatever this is. Frankly, I have more sympathy with the bonfire makers than the blustering pearl-clutchers and the cynical activists who will no doubt use this as yet another stick to beat everyone who isn’t a multi-culti enthusiast.
    In this culture the safety-valve you tend to get is bad taste humour, in lots of other cultures it would be a whole, whole, lot worse.

    • So I see. They handed themselves in. Idiots! And apparently a private party is now a public order offence. Their mistake was to put the video on social media. What the fuck did they think would happen?

      • Quite.

        A rather graphic demonstration of the old adage that you are punished more severely for your mistakes than your crimes.

        Not that this should be a crime of course and putting a video on social media! My sympathy ends there I’m afraid. You have to be Darwin award dumb not to realise what effect a pithy social comment like this would have on that monkey house of morons.

        And as for the sheet sniffing block wardens euphemistically known as the “police”. Well, I’d best stop there.

      • I remember the time I burnt then-PM Gordon Brown on the bonfire. That was probably an offence too.

        I don’t see them doing anything about the Ulster bonfires either. Personally, they shouldn’t have handed themselves in. It’s not a public order offence as it’s a private party. People were offended by a tasteless effigy at a private party.

        Truly, we are more like Pakistan than we like to admit.

  4. More agreement from me. What I don’t get is why that was an offence and this isn’t… https://www.itv.com/news/2018-11-05/in-pictures-burning-effigies-and-flaming-tar-barrels-for-november-5/
    I have very little time for Boris but I can see how this would offend some people, the same as I understand how burning the model of Grenfell would offend others. A crime though…Oh please. The other thing this does is undermine the genuine complaints from the Police that their services are being cut due to underfunding. How (a very reasonable person may ask) are the Police underfunded if they have resources to waste on this shit.

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