I Never Promised You A Rose Garden

Jeremy Corbyn is a career politician. He has never done a day’s useful work in his life. Indeed, such an unreliable piece of work is he, that he has spent most of his career rebelling against his own party, yet now demands loyalty from the PLP. And this is the man the students believed when he promised the fruits of the magic money tree. Indeed, so much did they believe him, they voted twice.

And now, after the event, we find that, actually, he lied. Well, he’s a politician, what did we expect?

Jeremy Corbyn has insisted he did not promise to write off all student debt while appealing to young voters during the general election.

During the campaign, the Labour leader said he would “deal with” the issue of graduates burdened with debt since tuition fees rose to £9,000.

He told the BBC he had never promised to abolish all debt as Labour “were unaware of the size of it at the time”.

He is clearly following in the footsteps of his esteemed predecessor, the Brown Gorgon who decided that manifesto promises aren’t worth the paper they are written on. Yet, despite this, the naïve students went out and voted early and often in order to get their debts written off, for they wanted a piece of that free money.

And, as an aside – the claim that they didn’t know how much it came to, is right out of the Diane Abbott manual of rank incompetence.

I wonder, following this revelation – and, hopefully, some prosecutions for electoral fraud – will his popularity tank like Emmanuel Macron’s? At least Macron is doing what he said he would do. The French, being French, don’t much like it. Well, they had the option of choosing a protectionist who would do things the French way, but they rejected her, so, er suck it up, eh? How long before there are tyres burning on the motorways, the Channel Ports are blockaded, air traffic control comes to a stand and the farmers and taxi drivers bring Paris to a halt?

Politicians, eh? They promise the world and fail. Every time. And still they get voted in.

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  1. A democracy will continue to exist up until the time that voters discover that they can vote themselves generous gifts from the public treasury. From that moment on, the majority always votes for the candidates who promise the most benefits from the public treasury, with the result that every democracy will finally collapse due to loose fiscal policy, which is always followed by a dictatorship. Attributed to Alexander Fraser Tytler.

  2. He promised something without finding out what it would cost first? The word imbecile doesn’t even start to get the job done. As for students voting twice, the cynic in me thinks that nothing much will be done about it. I would have thought that a full investigation followed by several by-elections would be the minimum that should happen but how likely is that?

    • As much as I think you are right; and lets face it, if we had anything to do with it then electoral fraud would be severely punished with jail terms and then altered to make it impossible. The problem is that it suits the political class to have a bent system as they profit from it. We still haven’t had an outcome from fraud perpetrated by the tories vis-a-vis Thanet, and we won’t.

      3rd world banana republics have less electoral fraud than we do!

    • Dude, go read what he actually said. He never said anything about wiping the debt. As for students voting twice, this sounds like Trumpism at it’s best. When the first person is charged then I will believe it has some merit, until then it didn’t happen…unlike the Tory election fraud in various places that has brought charges…

  3. He hasn’t lied. Dealing with the debt is not the same as saying it will be wiped out and you, as an intelligent person know this. Just because the hard of thinking cannot discern the difference doesn’t mean you should be jumping on that particular bandwagon. Instead why not address the fact that the Tories u-turned on their own manifesto before the ink was dry and…(it’s a big and…) they are the ones actually in government. You know, the ones that get to carry out their manifesto committments…whatever the hell they actually turned out to be…

    • I am intelligent enough to recognise cynical, manipulative behaviour when I see it and this is what has happened. The man used enough weasel words to give him wriggle room, but a lie by implication is still a lie. As for Electoral fraud, given that the left’s whole platform is built upon fraud, a little more comes as no surprise. The system has no safeguards to prevent this fraud, consequently Occam’s Razor suggests that it did happen. We will await the outcome of any investigation.

      Instead why not address the fact that the Tories u-turned on their own manifesto before the ink was dry

      This is a classic tu quoque fallacy – one you are rather fond of. Quite apart from the fact that I decide what I write about, not you, the Tories lost their parliamentary majority so abandoned those polices they knew they couldn’t get past the House. This was a sensible and pragmatic decision. The polices were put to the electorate. The electorate rejected them. The Tories decided not to pursue them. This is a good thing, not a bad one.

      • Labelling my arguments as fallacious doesn’t make them so. I bet you don’t stop people and claim some fallacy or other in real life when they present you with examples of hypocrisy. I bet you just get on with the discussion because in real life examples of hypocrisy are valid points. As to what you write, of course that is down to you and you don’t have to address anything you don’t want to, but no sensible person is going to give your writings much credence if you routinely complain about what one side is doing but completely ignore that the side you do seem to support does the same. Oh and by the way, they abandoned those policies before a single vote had been cast so it had nothing to do with the fact they lost their majority. They may have abandoned more policies since the election, but that only goes to show that absolutely nothing they have said can be relied upon in any way, shape or form. Not really a good basis for an elected government wouldn’t you say?

        • Labelling my arguments as fallacious doesn’t make them so

          I labelled them fallacious because they are. It’s merely an observation of fact. You didn’t present me with an example of hypocrisy, you merely tried to muddy the water with a tu quoque about the Tories. I wasn’t discussing the Tories, I was discussing Corbyn. The Tories, therefore, are irrelevant to the discussion.

          …if you routinely complain about what one side is doing but completely ignore that the side you do seem to support …

          I don’t support them. I don’t support anyone. I despise all of them.

  4. “How long before there are tyres burning on the motorways, the Channel Ports are blockaded, air traffic control comes to a standstill and the farmers and taxi drivers bring Paris to a halt?”

    Next week perchance? Those Frenchies aren’t exactly backward in coming forward when “En grève”

    As for Corbyn, he’s a moron. Perpetually opening his doctrinaire mouth without looking at the facts.

      • He has low animal cunning that can pass for intelligence in the right light, but as for economic and historical knowledge, he’s a moron. Offering the same old failed doctrines in the same failed way in the hope that there will be a different outcome. That’s either moronic or insane, take your pick.

        • I expect he’s banking on the Young People not knowing history – at least not knowing the history of communism, which is more than likely given the selectivity in teaching which is underpinned by leftist bias.

          • Those “young people” of which you speak are the University students yes? Then by virtue of that fact I expect they probably know more about many subjects than the uneducated majority. To think that you are more wise to a subject just because you are not young is supreme arrogance. Personally I think young people have the advantage of not having many, many years of slow indoctrination that older people are subjected to daily via the MSM which is massively biased to the political right.

          • Nah, they’ve had a decade of leftist indoctrination, but that’s all okay…

            Then by virtue of that fact I expect they probably know more about many subjects than the uneducated majority.

            You don’t get out much. My experience is that they are remarkably lacking in general knowledge and history outside of their narrow field. Critical thinking is remarkably absent.

            MSM which is massively biased to the political right.

            Bullshit on steroids. You clearly haven’t been watching much BBC output of late.

          • Here is a nice simple binary question for you Mr. Halford. Which country is the most prosperous, North or South Korea? If you can answer correctly, you can have a bonus point if you can suggest any reason why that might be the case.

          • I lived through the 60’s and 70’s while many UK industries were nationalised, and I can tell you from first hand experience that they were badly run and delivered truly abysmal levels of service. Every single one.

            Corbyn believes in nationalisation and redistribution (Of other people’s resources, naturally). Both policies are proven failures. Many times over. Within living memory. Ergo he is delusional, liar or a moron.

          • I’m going with “liar”. You missed out envy and spite. These people don’t care if they trash the economy as this is all about the power to exact revenge on anyone who is successful. Given that Corbyn and McDonnell are older than I am, they too lived through that period. They cannot have missed the mess it made. Ergo, they don’t give a shit, so long as they are the ones in charge, because they will be alright. In referring to them as morons, you are being too kind.

        • This is all about power, nothing more. The Marxists are good at playing the long game and they are very good at manipulative behaviour – they will say anything to gain power. That their acolytes are unable to learn form history is to their advantage. So calling them morons is risking underestimating them.

  5. I’m quite bemused by the fact that we are now lumbered with a clueless socialist “Tory” government and lefties still hate them because, well they’re Tories.

  6. Guido has two examples of shadow ministers (Imran Hussain and Sharon Hodgson) making explicit promises to write off student debt. I suspect there were others. This is typical Corbyn behaviour – his followers say (and do) the dirty stuff while he remains in a position to deny it.

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