Hearing What People Say
It’s interesting to see the reactions to the Pope’s comments yesterday. The comments in question being those about aggressive secularism and the UK’s stance against the Nazis during WWII. I listened to those comments and didn’t interpret them in the same way as the Guardian readers nor, for that matter, the Nameless Libertarian. I did not pick up a desire to link atheists with Nazis.
He was incorrect in his assertion that the Nazis wished to eradicate God, because their ideology was not specifically atheist. And arguments from the Guardianista about the minutiae of Hitler’s beliefs doesn’t alter this. The Nazis themselves were not on some crusade of godlessness, they were seeking control and domination. Some of them – possibly Hitler himself – may have not believed in god, but that does not mean that the evil they perpetrated had anything to do with religious belief or the lack thereof. So, Benedict was factually inaccurate, which I find mildly surprising. But, that inaccuracy does not equate to the simplistic Nazis=atheists or even Nazis=aggressive secularism. I found nothing in his remarks to lead to this conclusion.
While I am no Catholic, being an unbeliever, I do have some sympathy with the aggressive secularism argument. The state should be secular. It should make no laws regarding the observation of religion. Equally, I find the state imposing restrictions on the mutually agreed collective activities of religious groups (schools, adoption agencies et al) inherently unethical as they impinge on freedom of association. Religion should be a private matter and people should be free to practice without fear or favour.
I can’t help wondering just what twentieth century atheist extremism he is on about though. Some use the Soviet Union as an example – but that is to engage in logical fallacy. Sure the Soviets were atheist, but that does not mean that what they did was because of their atheism, it was because they were evil nasty bastards. It was because they unleashed the evil that lies dormant in humanity. Their lack of belief in a deity is neither here nor there. The Church believes in a diety – at least, I hope it does – and in its time has engaged in some pretty evil behaviour. The Islamists believe in a deity and they are happy enough to bomb people. All this tells us is that people will behave like people. Believing in a higher power or not is not itself a causation. To try to make such a link is to engage in hoc ergo propter hoc.
And, finally, trotting out his German past – membership of the Hitler youth – and the Vatican’s failure to stand up to the Nazis really doesn’t help and, frankly, are cheap shots. Listen to what the man has to say and engage with that. There’s plenty there to be getting on with…






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